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??? Tue Nov 23 12:33:18 2004 |
hi every body does any one know where the battered black coloured sheild is? in hellfire ??? |
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Phil Sadler Tue Nov 23 13:16:40 2004 |
"hi every body does any one know where the battered black coloured sheild is? in hellfire"
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??? Tue Nov 23 16:49:22 2004 |
Giant centepide?? where do you find him??? ??? |
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Chadwick Tue Nov 23 17:03:38 2004 |
???, you're slightly ahead of me... but I just caught up. I have no Centipede or Pool of Acid on my map. Have you found it yet? Phil, you know what would make this game easier? Some clues in the text, rather than just arbitrary object gathering. So give us a clue about where our multi-legged friend can be found. |
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Phil Sadler Tue Nov 23 18:31:17 2004 |
Centipede:
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Clues:
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Chadwick Wed Nov 24 12:01:07 2004 |
And remind me again how I get on top of the wall? I'm guessing I need some object that will make use of the holes in the corner of each brick, but I cannot work out which one.
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The Cyclops give clues? Presumably you don't mean the two just after Libra's Breath? They weren't very communicative at all. Is there another one somewhere else? |
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Phil Sadler Wed Nov 24 16:36:46 2004 |
The wall:
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By the way, the online version is much tougher than the text version. The reasons being that you can't use Luck in combat and that, lots of times, if you don't have a certain item at a certain location you are not told. In the text version Luck is very important and each combat takes it into account. Further more, the items you need are almost always reffered to directly in the text. |
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Phil Sadler Wed Nov 24 16:38:51 2004 |
The Cyclops:
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??? Wed Nov 24 18:26:36 2004 |
Does anyone know what artifact charges all the armor up? (before you fight the trinataur) ??? |
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??? Thu Nov 25 15:37:14 2004 |
WOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!! I've finally completed Hellfire and now I've only got to complete House of horror!!! SO any one who needs any help on any of the fbooks (bar hoh) giz us a shout P.S does any one know how to complete house of horror because i'm stuck (I pick up the star kill the count and then all these Men in black robes kill ME) |
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Chadwick Thu Nov 25 16:05:16 2004 |
Wll done ??? You beat me to it. Do me a favour though and answer your own question: what do I use to charge the armour? |
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??? Thu Nov 25 16:33:08 2004 |
Ahh well Chadwick my friend to charge the armor you must
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also when fighting the mirror of you
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??? P.S I have finaly completed all the games and to answer my earlier question you have to
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Chadwick Thu Nov 25 16:45:53 2004 |
Hmmm. Not impressed with Hellfire. The only way to complete it is to collect random objects and to have a high Skill. Oh and don't forget your Potion of Skill. Why the Potion of Skill? Coz come the end there's 3 big bosses to beat, all with double figure Skill (and yes I did use the Chaos Cross), meanwhile you have just fought a min 4 round battle where you lose a Skill each round. Without a Potion of Skill, you go into these battles at maximum Skill 9. You really need the dice to go well. I'd always thought that the FF books were doable on even the lowest stats. Hard maybe, but doable. Hellfire is not worth attempting unless your Luck and Skill are both above 9. |
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Phil Sadler Thu Nov 25 17:30:48 2004 |
Bosses:
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Anyway, writing one of these things is more difficult than you might think. Further more, very few FF books were 'doable' on anything less than a skill 10, or maybe even an 11. A lot of Hellfire isn't as tough as you might think because there are secret ways past creatures or ways to weaken them or power-up yourself. If you ever look at the text version you might know what I mean. Anyway, thanks for playing my book, which I know readily admit was too tough for most :( |
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As you say, although the FF books would contain a paragraph stating that they could be completed with a low SKILL, that was quite clearly a lie. Similarly, of the gamebooks on this site, I would say that realistically only House Of Horror can be completed with a SKILL of 7.
It seems to me that this is a fundamental weakness of the rules of FF. It is always going to be very difficult for any author to allow for a player with a SKILL of 7 to succeed without making the fights too easy for a player with a SKILL of 12. Personally I don't consider Hellfire to be "too" difficult. There are of course easier gamebooks on this site, but Hellfire is there for those who like a tougher challenge. |
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Phil Sadler Thu Nov 25 17:36:07 2004 |
Please remind me to proof read a post before I send it! One last thing. I now realise, years after I wrote them, that the final door and the Trinitour himself involve too much 'trial and error'. Ah well, I think I mostly got rid of things like that in the sequel (only to have 1 or 2 people decribe the text version as "A bit too easy.")! Man, you just can't win with some people! |
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Chadwick Thu Nov 25 19:58:40 2004 |
Put my mind at rest then. How do I improve my chances with the Time Beast and the end bosses?
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Phil Sadler Fri Nov 26 09:41:16 2004 |
"Put my mind at rest then. How do I improve my chances with the Time Beast and the end bosses?"
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There are ways past other creatures too, as well as many other secrets to discover, but they're not easy to find. |
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Phil Sadler Fri Nov 26 09:45:31 2004 |
Forgot about the Abomination:
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??? Fri Nov 26 16:21:31 2004 |
One last question what exactly are the chances of getting the rusty gaultlets instead of the shield?
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??? P.S Is there any way of opening the chest in the room with voodoo doll in it? |
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Phil Sadler Fri Nov 26 17:25:37 2004 |
Rusty gauntlets:
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Open chest:
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