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Return To G15-275




Ulysses
Mon Sep 23 05:52:39 2013
@ C-star

Three ships to stow away on at the start:
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With those things you have listed, some are required, some aren't, but there's still lots you don't seem to have done. Just explore more, try different things, and what you need to do should gradually become clear.




bcyy
Mon Sep 23 08:07:46 2013
@Moderator

Re: Are there? Like what?

For a start, if memory serves well, you once commented about a year ago that Ulysses did not have time to complete G15-275 any time soon, when someone asked about it, while Ulysses remained silent. This means that Ulysses and yourself must have at least a very intimate friendship, for you to do his talking on a topic concerning his creation. That was when I started to suspect that something funny was going on.

Also, recalling that you went missing for quite a long period of time recently, and that G15-275 went online at the same time that you returned, one can' t help feeling suspicious. It seems almost as though you stopped moderating in order to spare time for something... writing a gamebook, perhaps?

Next, note that the word or pdf document version for G15-275 is still unavailabe. This means that there probably isn't one. Had there been one, and had you converted the code version from the word/pdf version, you may or may not have uploaded the latter into the "downloads" section, for reasons that weighed with yourself alone, but Ulysses could definitely not have resisted announcing his latest creation weeks ago, before the conversion. Thus, G15-275 is probably the first gamebook on this site written in code prior to any other format. The code was your creation, and anyone who has experience working with someone else's computer code knows that doing so is a nightmare. If Ulysses did not write the code in the first place, it is unthinkable that he would go through the trouble of writing an entire gamebook in someone else's code. Therefore, if we assume that my theory (that G15-275 is written in code only) is true, and that the gamebook code was indeed created by yourself, then it is logical to guess that you and Ulysses are the same person.

Furthermore, Ulysses and yourself never comment on the same topic, and never give redundant opinions. It almost seems as though you two have an unspoken agreement that once one voices an opinion, the opinion of the other is not important. The most recent example is your question "Are there? Like what?", while Ulysses is silent about it again, even though he has been online and even replied to a question since. The desire for independent identities usually decrees that people give their independent opinions, even if the opinions are exactly the same; yet Ulysses doesn't do this when you talk.

Lastly, although I have no evidence to prove this, the writing styles of Ulysses and yourself seem extremely similar. Both are capable of complex and posh writing styles, but neither likes to deliberately adopt such styles, preferring instead to let the poshness leak through the cracks naturally. Of course, this last "fact" is extremely subjective, and may have been biased by my conviction that you are the same person in the first place.

Above are the facts. I understand that there is no hard evidence, but you must admit that it's enough to set little grey cells pulsating.

So: care to either confirm or deny my guess?

Ulysses
Mon Sep 23 10:49:22 2013
Even though you directed this question to the moderator, I'll answer some of your charges.
Firstly, the moderator and I communicate via email on occasion, usually around the release time of my gamebooks. This means the moderator may be aware of information such as that Return to G15-275 had a long development time (although I have no memory of the incident you mention). But certainly if the moderator had correctly answered a question, then I would not regard any answer from myself as necessary.
While the moderator was indeed absent for a while recently, to suggest this was because he was writing a gamebook underestimates both the effort to write a 600-reference gamebook, and the effort to convert it for online play. Recall that the previous episode was released in 2010, and in fact I started writing Return to G15-275 well before that as it was originally going to be episode 6, but I decided to insert a short episode in between to break apart two cyclical-style adventures. So basically, I wrote Return to G15-275 over the course of about 4 years. As for adapting it for online play, I sent the moderator the file on the 22nd of November 2012. That's 10 months to adapt the gamebook, mostly I suspect because of the demands of life rather than the gamebook itself.
The reason the gamebook does not appear on the downloads page is because I have a longstanding request that my gamebooks appear first as available for online play, with the download being offered months later. This is because I myself usually could not resist playing the text version of a new gamebook first. So in order to give you all a more enjoyable first experience of playing the gamebook I have made this request; which is also a matter of public record in this guestbook. Therefore, your assertion that I "could definitely not have resisted announcing (my) latest creation weeks ago" is wrong on multiple counts: it was months, not weeks, and I can.
I already mentioned above that if a correct answer is given, by the moderator or another guest, then I see no need to comment. In general I don't comment unless I see a need to do so, even though I check this guestbook daily.
Finally if the moderator and I have a similar standard of English, well maybe we just both paid attention in school.
In closing, thanks for your entertaining speculation, and I suggest you put your imagination into writing a gamebook :)
Yes, well, that's just what I'd expect me to say.

bcyy
Mon Sep 23 14:04:57 2013
@Ulysses

Thanks for clarifying things, and sorry if the speculation was insullting! I didn't mean for those points to be "charges". :-)

I must admit that I admire your superhuman modesty in keeping the release quiet since Nov 2012. And having never written a gamebook longer than 30 entries before, I hope that my ignorance of the effort put into writing one 600 entries long may be excused.

Phil Sadler
Mon Sep 23 15:33:25 2013
Not many people know that I am also the moderator and Ulysses ... and bccy.

duffmeister
Mon Sep 23 15:36:02 2013
Ah bcyy...You fail to grasp the full magnitude of the truth. We are ALL really the moderator, and this is his elaborate conspiracy to deceive you into thinking there are dozens of people communicating here. I wouldn't even post this comment were it not for the fact that I knew you would instantly dismiss it as the work of a single deluded lunatic putting in a comment completely out of keeping with Ulysses' and Andy's own comments in response. It's all part of my plan to make the truth seem outrageous as I sow my web of deceit and villainy...Meh heh heh heh heh... Now only to hope that Andy and Ulysses don't blow this comment down straight away...though I suppose I could always say it was done to make the suggestion seem even more outrageous and thus increase the strength of my elaborate facade...

C-Star
Mon Sep 23 16:14:00 2013
It's a facade in a facade. Facade-ception!

binki
Mon Sep 23 16:19:51 2013
Good day, Ulysses!
Thank you for a beatiful adventure

I have reached the ending (but suspect not the best)

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Is there a way to reach Tinypus without killing red-head female or it is a unavoidable event?
Well done.

As you suspect, this is not the best ending possible, but it is good enough to let you proceed into the next episode (you should have seen a TO BE CONTINUED message instead of THE END). If you had reached the very best ending - and this applies to all the gamebooks now - there would have been a further message saying CONGRATULATIONS / You have completed Return To G15-275).

To answer your question,

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binki
Mon Sep 23 17:10:41 2013
Thank you but
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Sorry, that was ambiguous now I look at it again. I meant :

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D-L-T
Tue Sep 24 00:29:20 2013
C-Star said:
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hint:
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that may or may not help you.

bcyy
Tue Sep 24 00:30:58 2013
Hmmm...

Come to think of it, how does anyone except the moderator know that I'm not the moderator?

:-)

D-L-T
Tue Sep 24 05:07:22 2013
so...

I'm a bit stuck, but I really wanted to check that this is working as it should.

Massive spoiler alert.

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You're on the right lines but, yes, there is something you're missing. From your description, everything seems to be working correctly.

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Ulysses
Tue Sep 24 10:31:18 2013
@C-star:

Regarding the Nebulon, the only other adventure featuring them was Contractual Obligation. If you played that, you should be all over this question.


The Duke of Wellington
Tue Sep 24 15:11:30 2013
Bluffs and double-bluffs...it's all part of the deception, sir. A clever commander understands how to use these - but a cleverer enemy knows how to turn the tables and exploit them!

Niccolò Machiavelli
Tue Sep 24 17:37:42 2013
Ma certo, Wellington my friend. 'Tis the perogative of any truly great enemy not to respond to a plot with a counter-plot, but to make that very plot into their own counter-plot through their manipulations. Your deeds certainly mark you out as a skillful leader Wellington...I wonder if you ever read a little text published a few centuries ago to make a little money of the Florentine public. I'm starting to regret publishing it somewhat...it's far less fun being an arch-manipulator when everyone else is too, and while I once believed I began this whole guestbook conspiracy myself I now begin to suspect that the true mastermind has been behind us all along. I considered myself the chessmaster...never considering that I might in fact be naught but a pawn...who is the true conspirator behind all this? They must be positively devious (I would describe them as 'Machiavellian' but...well...).

The Duke of Wellington
Wed Sep 25 04:10:26 2013
Ah, chess is an excellent game of strategic value. However, it lacks the chaotic 'factors' of a true battlefield - the terrain, for example. Added to this you have the human elements of fatigue, desertion, and mutiny, all of which play a part in the outcome of a battle. Perhaps, in a similar sense, it can be argued that weariness afflicts a chess-player's ability. Having said that, my old adversary at Waterloo - Napoleon Bonaparte, no less! - suffered from terrible stomach ulcers...therefore affecting his ability to command. In such absence to convalesce, his adjutants made some grave errors which, I daresay, contributed to our victory. I'd say old Boney performed to around 70% of his capabilities in that bloody battle. Nevertheless, it was a close run thing....

Often, you may find that we're our own worst enemy: self-doubt can undo even the most redoubtable of fellows. All it takes is one little nudge in the right place at the right time. Just because a man's eyes are closed, doesn't mean to say he's truly sleeping - only waiting to strike. Caution, yes, but also a willingness to act; contingency plans are most desirable when an enemy cannot be gauged.

D-L-T
Wed Sep 25 06:37:24 2013
well, I managed to get a "to be continued" message at the end of Return to G15-275.

:)

Things I haven't managed to discover that I am sure are necessary for the "best" ending:
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I actually didn't realise it was possible to get so far without solving the problem I referred to in my reply to your last message. Doing that opens up a lot more of the game.

binki
Wed Sep 25 07:23:29 2013
Excuse me, is the

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best possible ending?

Would be this game book available for offline play?
Yes it is the best possible ending, and you can tell this because it says CONGRATULATIONS etc at the end (after the TO BE CONTINUED message). And I will upload the DOC version to the site after a decent interval as usual.

So, yes, very well done.

binki
Wed Sep 25 09:23:34 2013
Can you give a hint - is it possible to find a key for a gold watch (and approximately where if you are in a generous mode). I tried even catch batterfly bots but with no result

Thank you

Ulysses
Wed Sep 25 10:46:00 2013
@binki

Well done.

The way to the golden winding key is probably a low percentage find so I'll tell you that
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