Hi everyone, I think I've given up on Rebels of the Dark Chasms. If anyone could find a path which guarantees a 30% chance of beating the game, even with perfect initial rolls, a walkthrough would be appreciated.
Failing that, any way to complete the game would do.
bcyy Tue Nov 20 12:25:51 2012
@C-Star:
Really? Does that mean you completed Rebels Of The Dark Chasms? I didn't, and I'm pretty sure I've exhausted all permutations of choices. How did you do it?
I keep dying in the chase after breaking the alpha female character out of prison, providing that the lava section doesn't get me before that.
By the way, I agree that Hellfire is pretty hard - I only managed to beat it by reverse engineering a solution from the word version.
C-Star Tue Nov 20 17:29:42 2012
It's been a while ( about 7 months actually) since I won that, so memory's a bit fuzzy. How do you keep dying? I vaguely remember
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Getting trapped by Khuddum Ghurskut, fighting him briefly, him dying automatically and the wall opening up behind me.
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bcyy Wed Nov 21 07:45:47 2012
I don't remember that well - it's been about a year since I last fell into the lava and made a rage quit.
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Is Ghurskut the one in the room who extinguishes the torch once you barge in? If so, how did you survive the dark? Or did you fight him somewhere else? Are there any secrets to be found other than the Gaddon chef before you enter the torture chamber?
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bcyy Wed Nov 21 07:50:42 2012
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I keep dying immediately after breaking you-know-who out of the cell and energizing her with the potion. There is a chase immediately after that, and I was given the option of going left, right or straight ahead. It seems that all three paths lead to a gruesome end. Am I missing an item?
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C-Star Wed Nov 21 08:36:34 2012
I remember the junction, but not which one is right. One had a jump that you-know-who cannot do. She just dies. That option is wrong. Anyway, i think what happened is...
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the choice i made led me to a dead end. When i got to this dead end, Ghurskut appeared (so it was a different area) and i fought him briefly. Half way through the fight, he auto-died and the wall opened behind me. I think the Gaddons helped me here.
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I'll replay it again if i have the time, hope I helped a bit at least.
Drekketh Fri Jan 23 09:26:03 2015
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Oh my oh my..... 65!
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Drekketh Fri Jan 23 10:02:16 2015
Yeap I did it! However all the credits go to Mr. Taylor for writing up such a wonderful gamebook!
Tammy Tue Mar 17 01:46:13 2015
Ungrateful goblins!
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You reach out, but the pouch is frustratingly just out of grasp. You stretch a little further, and touch it. But as you do so, you fall forward into the mud. You begin to panic as you realise you are stuck in the mud. You curse your greed as you slowly sink into the mire to your doom. Your adventure is over.
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Terry Thu Jun 11 06:51:54 2015
Awesome. Very nice
André Tue Feb 14 15:39:51 2017
Nice one! Thanks for that
David O Tue Aug 15 21:20:27 2017
Good story. I will try to win next time
bluejuice915 Tue Nov 21 20:17:14 2017
This had a great story line. I'm not usually a big fan of bottle necks where you have to do something specific to win, but it does make for a nice challenge in finding those things. Having the unseen mechanic of time limit was an interesting twist as well. The battles were well balanced, which was also nice. 94/100
RogueOne Fri Nov 24 17:19:27 2017
Done!
Esteban Sun Jan 6 22:14:39 2019
Thank you for this wonderful story and webpage.
paul Fri Mar 8 12:17:10 2019
damn my greed, sunk in the mud!
Mage Mon Oct 18 05:44:23 2021
Am I right that 1 of the 2 paths in the very first section already leads to a delayed failure? Kind of a waste to devote so many sections to what looks like a doomed adventure. Also, the companions feature is interesting, but also a waste because the optimal/true path doesn't actually make use of them....
Beaver-Dam Sun Jul 9 13:51:33 2023
Great story, however, It was hell to get through ! Of course there’s a great ending if you are willing to restart enough times (because you WILL die) but you need the luck of Loki to get there. I’ve seen plenty of other gamebooks and choose-your-own-adventure but this made everything else look like Skyrim on Novice while you’re here playing Darksouls on steroids. When I finally reached the end, it felt like I wanted to jump out of my skin I was so pumped. Great gamebook, I’m never playing this again.
Beaver-Dam Sun Jul 9 14:01:47 2023
I’ve spent so much time chewing the dwarf out for dying, I’ve nicknamed him Ratnugget.
Beaver-Dam Thu Jul 20 10:33:51 2023
I’ve spent so much time chewing the dwarf out for dying, I’ve nicknamed him Ratnugget.
YARD Wed Sep 13 07:03:58 2023
So, this was quite an adventure. Neither the best nor the worst on here; in fact, quite far from either! There's a lot of good atmosphere: I particularly liked how the skill checks took your non-human nature into account, or how companions could force you into doing things the certain way. In general, the encounters felt very appropriate to the location. At the same time, there are also no memorable characters to be found, and few surprises in writing.
There are some unwelcome surprises in gameplay, though, as while the choices directly in front of you usually lead to logically predictable outcomes for once, (in sharp contrast with something like Hellfire/Riders of the Storm, where the opposite of logical action was more often than not the right one), it is only through blind luck or the process of elimination that you are going to discover which path and series of turns in the road will actually let you win. I.e. the most important item needed to win is found in an incredibly contrived manner. Perhaps Chasms of Malice somehow justifies that find, but I doubt it.
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Do the numbers on the bottles have any additional significance? In Chasms of Malice, was there any sort of an episode which could have had plausibly resulted in that bottle getting dropped into the river, or is it all just a complete coincidence? If the latter, then it would seemingly make far more sense to just get it from Goranthian, since it's not like you can bypass it if you want to win.
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There are other encounters where the 150-ref size feels limiting, as your choices seem overly constrained - i.e. that moment early on when our only options after encountering a goblin are to stay and watch or leave, and no way to just attack immediately while he's distracted? Granted, most of them are on paths that are already dead-ends, but they still stick out in the moment. I.e.
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We are suspicious of that Gaddon in the web, yet if we don't turn around and attack him on the spot, we still decide to tell him everything, with no option to be more economical with the truth? Further, our character is apparently ready to go and attack a Gaddon who had just been trapped in a web because he finds it suspicious he didn't sense it, but when faced with a chef who actually works for the enemy, even if as a slave, we cannot actually threaten him to get him to talk in any way? Nor, for that matter, can we attempt to loot provisions from the kitchen, regardless of his objections?
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One of the worst things, though, is that
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if you know about the breach, then you can end up asking the ogre to join you, only to dismiss him and any other companions two refs later. Even worse, is that you can somehow end up going from 88 to 116, which is just incredibly dumb. I really wish there was a non-Govanthian path where you used some tool to reach the bolts and lock the door after killing the torturer, then waited for a while inside, until your companions attacked at a predetermined time to make a distraction (strange that an exit strategy this obvious hasn't been considered, and you either throw them at the gate or dismiss them), and you could flee through the breach again. Perhaps you could even get the ogre to move the boulder for you. At that point, you might even be aided by Khuddam breaking down.
For that matter, it's strange that the scout could tell you about the breach, but not about the surrounding tunnels. (Perhaps you could at least remember which one to take through a Luck check?)
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Some other weirdness.
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In 76, it doesn’t seem to make sense that we automatically accept rest, when just earlier, mere hours were so important.
At 119, are we supposed to believe that the Xokusai took everything else, but let him keep the magical axe?
Bottle #35 is not removed from your inventory after getting used?
I am pretty sure that screaming is the last thing one would be able to do after getting vocal chords melted by acid, but then again, it doesn’t really matter for this ending.
After Phil Sadler's gamebooks, it feels weird to fight a giant spider who doesn’t deal extra damage or anything due to its poison. However, the twist during the premature Khuddam fight was awesome!
That, and a successful stamina check at 63 which still ends your run is amazing. (Perhaps this even deserves the “intermediate” ending marker?)
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YARD Wed Sep 13 07:05:08 2023
And I once again ran out of comment space, so proofreading has to be in a separate comment.
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11, 5, 15, 17, 32, 42, 52, 69, 79, 85, 101, 119, 125, 127, 134, 137, 143, 146 - extra space between the options and the question marks.
5 "You run a random direction" (in?)
8 "In future," (the?)
9 "and as a result"
11 "The goblins stares at you angrily"
38 "and new blockades are built." (perhaps barricades?) + "However" he says, + little else I can do for you" says Alkis (missing punctuation.)
45 "poison tipped arrows"
52 "Well lit"
55 "well lit" + "well travelled"
57 "and over run you"
58 "and in future (the?)"
64 "close to the waters edge."
65 "hits you nostrils"
67 "the next it has a skull like head. + reptilian like"
75 "a friend of mine" he says. + I can tell you" continues (missing punctuation.) + "right hand end cell". 80 83 "It is well lit"
87 "he walked straight into the spiders web" + "other (than?) the one you came through?"
97 "while he distracted" + "You here someone" + "large lumber to behind the door"
104 "In front of stretches hundreds of prison cells each with an occupant."
110 "you begin to feel light headed"
107 "because if run into a patrol, you have more chance of winning through as a group"
117 "You will pay for Rungit's life" he says (missing punctuation.)
122 "The mans face distorts with rage" + "telling you to keep away from you"
132 "The tunnel you are running on" (?) + "You are mine" he hisses (missing punctuation.)
141 "In that case" says the Gaddon (punctuation?)
144 "but the numbers are just to great."
150
"Broken and leaderless, the Xokusai flees." (flee?)