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Chadwick
Thu Nov 25 16:05:16 2004
Hellfire
Wll done ??? You beat me to it. Do me a favour though and answer your own question:
what do I use to charge the armour?

???
Thu Nov 25 16:33:08 2004
Hellfire
Ahh well Chadwick my friend to charge the armor you must

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also when fighting the mirror of you

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Chadwick
Thu Nov 25 16:45:53 2004
Hellfire
Hmmm. Not impressed with Hellfire. The only way to complete it is to collect random objects and to have a high Skill. Oh and don't forget your Potion of Skill.

Why the Potion of Skill? Coz come the end there's 3 big bosses to beat, all with double figure Skill (and yes I did use the Chaos Cross), meanwhile you have just fought a min 4 round battle where you lose a Skill each round. Without a Potion of Skill, you go into these battles at maximum Skill 9.
You really need the dice to go well.

I'd always thought that the FF books were doable on even the lowest stats. Hard maybe, but doable. Hellfire is not worth attempting unless your Luck and Skill are both above 9.

Phil Sadler
Thu Nov 25 17:30:48 2004
Hellfire
Bosses:

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Anyway, writing one of these things is more difficult than you might think.

Further more, very few FF books were 'doable' on anything less than a skill 10, or maybe even an 11.

A lot of Hellfire isn't as tough as you might think because there are secret ways past creatures or ways to weaken them or power-up yourself. If you ever look at the text version you might know what I mean.

Anyway, thanks for playing my book, which I know readily admit was too tough for most :(
As you say, although the FF books would contain a paragraph stating that they could be completed with a low SKILL, that was quite clearly a lie. Similarly, of the gamebooks on this site, I would say that realistically only House Of Horror can be completed with a SKILL of 7.

It seems to me that this is a fundamental weakness of the rules of FF. It is always going to be very difficult for any author to allow for a player with a SKILL of 7 to succeed without making the fights too easy for a player with a SKILL of 12.

Personally I don't consider Hellfire to be "too" difficult. There are of course easier gamebooks on this site, but Hellfire is there for those who like a tougher challenge.


Phil Sadler
Thu Nov 25 17:36:07 2004
Hellfire
Please remind me to proof read a post before I send it!

One last thing. I now realise, years after I wrote them, that the final door and the Trinitour himself involve too much 'trial and error'.

Ah well, I think I mostly got rid of things like that in the sequel (only to have 1 or 2 people decribe the text version as "A bit too easy.")!

Man, you just can't win with some people!

Chadwick
Thu Nov 25 19:58:40 2004
Hellfire
Put my mind at rest then. How do I improve my chances with the Time Beast and the end bosses?
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Phil Sadler
Fri Nov 26 09:41:16 2004
Hellfire
"Put my mind at rest then. How do I improve my chances with the Time Beast and the end bosses?"

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There are ways past other creatures too, as well as many other secrets to discover, but they're not easy to find.

Phil Sadler
Fri Nov 26 09:45:31 2004
Hellfire
Forgot about the Abomination:

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???
Fri Nov 26 15:14:47 2004
Riders Of The Storm
Dear FFP team there is something that has been puzzling me about riders of the storm is there some where else that you can use the trinator because you have to use to use it three times so why have the option of using it four times? Is this to allow error or is there somewhere else where you can use th trinator?

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P.S Just out of interest where do you find the wish ring?

P.P.S Also I loved House of horror its fairly short but amazing I particulaly loved the stringamano bit but mustadmit outsider still my favorite.

P.P.P.S Any chance off any more books? Any whatsoever... PLEASE!!!

Phil Sadler
Fri Nov 26 15:41:20 2004
Riders Of The Storm
Trinitour:

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Wish ring:

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???
Fri Nov 26 16:21:31 2004
Hellfire
One last question what exactly are the chances of getting the rusty gaultlets instead of the shield?
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P.S Is there any way of opening the chest in the room with voodoo doll in it?

Phil Sadler
Fri Nov 26 17:25:37 2004
Hellfire
Rusty gauntlets:

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Open chest:

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Cobaltnine
Sat Nov 27 03:59:05 2004
General Chat
Mr Sadler;

Thank you for this site! It's a productivity-killer but hey, we all need one of those, right? I'd actually never heard of Fighting Fantasy books before this - they're more of a British thing, right? - but I did grow up on text adventures and Choose Your Own Adventures, with a few random books that forfeited having d6s for flipping numbers in the corner. In fact, I think it was looking for the title of that series - it was something where you were a barbarian saving your girlfriend, absolute trash, but fun nevertheless - that I came upon your site.

I just finished 'The Trial of Allibor's Tomb', after prolific notes and deaths (I never said I was good at these things) and now I'm more psyched than ever to try one of the harder ones. (I found that mapping some of these is a bit of trial and error, though, especially the 'House...' one. I think I'm going to move onto mini-post-it notes soon.)

???
Sat Nov 27 20:47:31 2004
General Chat
HI FF TEAM

IS THERE EVEN THE TINYINST CHANCE OF ANY MORE FF BOOKS BEING MADE??? BECAUSE WHAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL WOULD BE A REALLY HARD ONE THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO DO ON THERE OWN WITHOUT A TEXT VERSION? OR HAVE YOU DECIDED NOT TO MAKE ANY MORE? BUT IF YOU'RE NOT SURE PLEASE PLEASE DO.
PRETTY PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY, SOME GUMMIE BEARS AND A CHOCALATE FLAKE ON TOP!

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Phil Sadler
Tue Nov 30 13:13:14 2004
General Chat
I'd just like to point out that this is not my page! The person who answers in orange is the boss!

Chadwick
Tue Nov 30 13:19:47 2004
Hellfire
Final Hellfire Question (I think).
What would persude the Cyclops to tell me how to kill the Trinotaur? They've not been impressed with anything I've got so far.

Phil Sadler
Tue Nov 30 13:44:17 2004
Hellfire
Cyclops:

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???
Tue Nov 30 16:50:25 2004
Hellfire
Hmm yes ok but if you go to the shop you can't complete the game can you?

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???
Tue Nov 30 16:56:40 2004
Hellfire
OOPS MY STUPID DOG JUST STOOD ON THE ENTER KEY RIGHT WHEN I WAS ABOUT TO SUBMIT MY QUESTION...IS THERE A WAY OF DELETING
AND OR RETRACTING STAMENTS? IF NOT EVERY BODY SEND IN THERE QUESTIONS REAL FAST ABOUT 9 SHOULD DO IT

SO SO SO SO SO SORRY ABOUT THIS ???
Not a problem, I can fix this sort of thing easily.

The black ninga
Tue Nov 30 17:03:11 2004
Riders Of The Storm
<Hmm I have a question is there another way to kill the "shadow stealer" in riders of the storm it's just I finally found a weapon that can hurt the 'shadow stealer' (the torch) but it still quite hard beat it>