Wrong Way Go Back - most amusing. I'd suggest changing the lift section mentioned in the two posts above - maybe it should just be testing your luck instead.

Ibrahim
Fri Jun 1 16:18:36 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Hi.

Sorry to bother you folks, but I am trying to beat wrong way go back. I have tried every conceivable option and I still end up getting cooked up like an oven ready chicken.

I am going to ask a few questions in the hope someone can help me.
Firstly, what is the significance of the cabinet with the power supplies and other miscelanious items?
Do I need to concern myself with the keypad at the abandoned security station?
Do I need Garry Fishbone's ID if I find it or the sonic screwdriver? Sometimes, I only find my own ID card where upon you stop searching automatically.

Any clues would be appreciated.

stirlock
Fri Jun 1 20:03:34 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

I too am hopelessly stuck in wrong way go back. Help?

Ekaterin
Sat Jun 2 10:03:35 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Re Wrong Way Go Back:

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Shadow Dragon
Sun Jun 3 15:41:39 2007
General Chat

Yeah, spoilers would be nice. I always get stuck with the random search options, they waste sections so badly and you never know what you need and what you don't.

Ekaterin
Sun Jun 3 18:36:28 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

OK, more spoilers re Wrong Way Go Back:

SPOILER

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Ulysses Ai
Mon Jun 4 04:37:38 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Hi everyone,
WWGB is hard. It took me numerous attempts to complete my own gamebook due simply to the time factor. Even knowing what you need, you still have to do things quickly.
In particular:

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Hope everyone enjoys the challenge.

Ulysses Ai
Mon Jun 4 05:30:22 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

re: Timing

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Ibrahim
Mon Jun 4 12:13:57 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Hi.

I think Wrong Way Go Back is one of the most unreasonable FF gamebooks I have ever played. So much of it relies on random events such as searching the club as to timing that if you don't find what you need the moment you need it, the game is over. It would make things a lot easier if you could specify where you want to search for example under the tables etc. Time would only be wasted if you specify the wrong option as in the lift sequence.

Coincidentally, I've been thinking about making exactly the change you describe. But I think the nightclub search is the only unreasonable part in the gamebook.

Ibrahim
Tue Jun 5 12:14:05 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Agreed. I didn't ever ask the computer what was going on, so never found out which deck I was on. If you only change the nightclub seen, that would make life a whole lot easier.

stirlock
Tue Jun 5 15:47:04 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

indeed, the nightclub section relies much too heavily on random chance.

James
Wed Jun 6 21:21:27 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Wrong Way Go back is actually terrible, but only because the reader has no control over what happens. If you don't find things in exactly the right order in the nightclub you fail.

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If you find your ID first you automatically leave the nightclub and cannot win.

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Ulysses Ai
Fri Jun 8 09:47:13 2007
Wrong Way Go Back

Hi everyone.
Thanks for the feedback.
Andy and I have discussed the issue and there will be some changes at some point in the future. However, your character will still

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In a longer gamebook, I would never put in such a chance-dependent section. But this is a short one, and the nightclub section is near the start; so to me that makes it acceptable.
I make no apologies for making the book difficult, as this was my intention. But please point out anything that is unrealistic, silly, contrived, pointless, etc. All feedback will go to improving future works.

EternalGamer
Sat Jun 9 10:43:50 2007
General Chat

Great website! As much as I love playing text adventures aka works of interactive fiction, there are times when I just don't feel like bothering myself with parser problems and inventory juggling. These are the moments when I missed game books. I am now missing no more.

Isle of the Cyclops
Sun Jun 10 04:40:20 2007
Isle Of The Cyclops

Just finished the Island of the Cyclops.

It was good in the sense that it was different.

It did have a "video game" feel to it however. It was a little too 2-D for my taste. The locations lacked personality and so did the characters.

Developing further would certainly improve this adventure in my opinion.

Still, thanks for sharing.

Wrong Way Go Back

I like the premise. I hope there will be a sequel which will be longer and with less randomness involved.

Diamond Key
Tue Jun 12 07:00:40 2007
The Diamond Key

The Diamond Key is amazing. Kudos to Ulysse, seriously.

A marvelous piece of art.

There's a few typos here and there however.

But beside that, wow, a really good read.

Question Wed Jun 13 08:33:19 2007 The Diamond Key	Hello Andy, I understand that you will provide the diamond key online eventually. Now this boom has some special mechanics as far as combat is concerned. Does it mean that you're willing to implement different combat mechanics? I always did think that FF combat were boring... Thanks.
	The combat system in The Diamond Key isn't really very different at all, so I didn't have any issues with it. In general, I am not keen on different combat mechanics. By far the most important aspect to me is how good the writing and the storyline are, so I'm not going to be overly motivated to deal with a gamebook with a completely different system when it could more easily be adapted to FF.

Question
Thu Jun 14 08:40:24 2007
I'm Writing A Gamebook

I'm working on my own Gamebook.

Any advice for the pro, or from experienced players?

What should I avoid?

I've got about 50 paragraphs finished I would think.

Andy, I understand what you're saying. I don't think my gamebook is combat centered by a good, dynamic fight sometimes is really something I enjoy.

Would the following be applicable:

Where the difference between the attack power of two opponent determines the amount of damage caused? Something similar to "The Diamond Key" but a bit more simple.

I've worked on some new mechanics to fix the boring combat.

I'm thinking about fixing other flaws of the old system, namely how a huge difference in SKILL score either makes the game too difficult or too easy. Any suggestions?

I was thinking of having characters start with a set set of stats.

For example:

SKILL: 9 ENDURANCE: 16 LUCK: 9

I don't really see the point of randomly generated characters anyway.

I could also offer a choice of different characters with different stats.

Any suggestions would be read and taken into consideration.

One last thing: should I begin with a small adventure and go from there?

Al Sander
Thu Jun 14 22:51:45 2007
I'm Writing A Gamebook

A set of standard scores would be the way to go, especially if you want to make sure the player has a certain chance of getting through the adventure.
For example, you could design an adventure where a character with certain scores has about a 50% chance of making it through, assuming they made all the "right" choices. Or you could adjust this figure if you wanted a harder or easier adventure.

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